White Wolf alpha male Ethan Skemp lays out some tantalizing tidbits of the upcoming Werewolf Revised, and explains what became of Umbra 2nd Edition...

Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:30:20 -0400
From: Ethan Skemp (alphaethan@WHITE-WOLF.COM)
To: Discussion of White Wolf's World of Darkness (WEREWOLF-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM)
Subject: Werewolf Revised (was: Appearance)

      
    Since it seems to have become its own topic of discussion:

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    >From: Doug winstead (mrscarlet@YAHOO.COM)

    >    Eager to see it, Ethan.  Any hints as to who's
    > doing the art chores on the Tribe write-ups?

    Everyone here seems to like his work. :)

    Seriously, I think I spilled the beans earlier elsewhere, so I might as well
    repeat it: Ron Spencer.

    And they're goooooooooood.

    (Unless you were maybe expecting a Fianna dressed in courtly changeling
    costume, a Bone Gnawer who looks like a shabby bum and a Get of Fenris who
    looks like Dolph Lundgren.)

    > noticed the other day that virtually no stores in my
    > area(which covers a territory ranging from Berkeley to
    > Santa Cruz, ca. or around 70 miles) has (or can get,
    > apparently) any copies of WW:tA 2nd Ed.  For many of
    > them, I had to explain *why* ("with 3-ed. due out very
    > soon, WW has probably ceased all printings of 2-ed.
    > Where WERE you guys?"). Amazing how stores
    > specializing in such things can have reasonably dense
    > proprietors.

    Yeeuurgh. Geez, thanks for reminding them that long 'bout December, they can
    reasonably expect to start selling Werewolf main rulebooks again, and
    hopefully in better numbers than before.

    >    The Challenge: I'm thinking Africa, but I'm biased
    > (as most of the folks on this list can _more_ than
    > testify); besides, I've noticed that the World of
    > Darkness books in general have been devoted an unusual
    > amount of attention to the Dark Continent, lately.
    >    The Revised Book, above: So, Ethan, do you think
    > that you've dealt with the whole Shadowlord thing that
    > we discussed a while back as well as you've hoped?
    > (this may or may not require a private exchange,
    > depending upon how this particular subject goes
    > over...history repeating itself and all that...).

    I think I did okay, but it's hard to see your mistakes until it's way too
    late. ;) Well, I'm considering revised Tribebooks, just in case.

    >From: Bjørn T Bøe              (ragabash@ONLINE.NO)

    > Ethan, I have a question;
    > what with Mage Rev's focusing on the Mundane world, and basically ditching
    > the whole Umbra as an incredibly cool, nifty, interesting, intriguing and
    > unique storytool, will Werewolf focus MORE or LESS on the Umbra than what
    > it does now (which is adequate in every way)?

    About the same. There wasn't so much room available in the main rules that I
    was able to expand the Umbra chapter's size greatly, but at the same time,
    neither was it excised to make room for Merits and Flaws. The optional rules
    don't appear in the core rules, as the not-so-optional rules tend to take up
    lots and lots of space.

    Ethan Skemp
    WWGS

Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:22:54 -0400
From: Ethan Skemp (alphaethan@WHITE-WOLF.COM)
To: Discussion of White Wolf's World of Darkness (WEREWOLF-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM)
Subject: Re: Umbra book      
 

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    >From: Bjørn T Bøe              (ragabash@ONLINE.NO)
    >To: WEREWOLF-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM
    >Subject: Re: Umbra book
    >Date: Tue, Sep 26, 2000, 3:35 AM
    >

    > At 19:48 25/09/2000 -0600, you wrote:
    >>I noticed a listing for an Umbra book at Ex Libris and was wondering if
    >>this is a reprint of the original Umbra book or is it truly a
    >>significant rewrite?  Is it worth 20$ or are we better off keeping our
    >>orignal copies in readable condition?
    >>Any input would be nice, thanks
    >>  Jericho
    >
    > It's Umbra: The Velvet Shadow 2nd Edtition. It needed a re-vamp, so Etham
    > re-vamped it.

    Revised edition, to be more precise. Ken was gracious enough to move it to
    after the WRev release so that it wouldn't be quickly outdated.

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    Ethan Skemp
    WWGS